Sounds like the organisation is trying to tighten their hold on prospective victims yet to be baptised.
First question emphasises Jehovah (equals Org in their eyes) as ultimate duty. Second question tries to con people that they're in a contract with the org - AND Thirdly - the spirit directed aspect has been dropped.
As of May this year these changes take place. It's a circulation to elders, not the congregation, so the sheep won't be aware.
Like Kim, when I was baptised back in the 1970s it was baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - a much more personal thing; no stipulation of belonging to a corporate organisation.
And this is where Kim makes some important points - no one has signed any contract to the organisation even though the org wants its sheep to believe they're beholden. The Watchtower Society is a corporation. Verbal agreements are not binding. Then take into account the sheep are under obligation to accept any and all changes in doctrine without consultation.
Post by Thehotone4u2 on May 12, 2019 11:59:29 GMT -7
And the exodus of the sheep continues to accelerate! I wonder if any of these changes have something to do with legal liability? Or perhaps they were made because the vast majority of new members are born ins.
Every day people are straying away from the church and going back to god!-Lenny Bruce (1925-1966)
You're the one with the legal brain HotOne - In what way could it relate to possible legal liabilities? Would it be that the sheep have made a verbal contract, so that in the event any of the sheep end up in court over religious or moral liabilities, then Watchtower would put the onus back onto the individual?
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Shimmerjet: Hi runawaybob, yep I am a member of that group, are you a kiwi? I am too, started my jw journey in Upper Hutt then moved around the lower north island for a few years trying to fade,
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