How many of us regular or auxiliary pioneered when we were in? Did you enjoy it, hate it, or was it just a 'meh' moment? Did you say you loved it when you hated it?
I auxiliary pioneered during summer break when I was 15. HATED IT! The same people every single day. Hot cars, mostly not at homes, and boredom. It was supposed to be a fulfilling experience but I resented every second. Preaching the word took a backseat to getting hours in. One month I didn't meet my quota and boy did I feel like crap! If I remember right I think I had to fill out a slip saying how many months I pledged to serve. Anyone else remember that?
Years later I went to lunch with Mom and an older dub lady. The older lady got on the subject of how wonderful it must be to pioneer (she'd never done it). I blurted out that I'd tried auxiliary pioneering, hated it, and would never ever do it again. Shocked look from her and an embarrassed look from Mom. Oops! My horns and fangs slipped out that time! :D
Post by Chris Ryan on Aug 13, 2016 16:17:10 GMT -7
I loved it at first. I regular pioneered for about a year, until I was DF'd the second time. Pioneering started to get to be exhausting and too much like a chore. I had a love hate relationship with it I suppose. Towards the end, I saw it as a lost cause due to so few encouraging responses at the door. So that, plus other things led to me getting DF'd for smoking pot, and refusing to give it up... After I eventually got re-instated, I went in service a lot, and still had good times and bad times. Looking back on all my field service endeavors, I'd say I mostly hated it...
..::"You can close your eyes to the things you don’t want to see, but you can’t close your heart to the things you don’t want to feel." -Johnny Depp::..
I pioneered from as soon I could start pioneering (6 months after baptism) until the day I started to fake my reports, or publicly the day I disappeared from the congregation. So regular pioneer for 5-6 years.
In the beginning, I believe that my conviction really made me trust the borg, and hence the preaching work really became the most important thing in my life. Everything else was secondary. For the first years, I think I was happy about it, mostly. I did the right thing. Also, life was pretty easy for me. Since you almost have to downsize everything else in your life (relations, education, work, apartment), my life became kind of one sided, with 'kingdom interests' first. This was OK, as long as I believed in it. The work in itself, cannot say I LOVED IT, but I didn't hate it neither.
However, when doubts began to rise, the whole picture turned. I wasn't that motivated anymore to pursue a career within the borg. And at the same time, I had constructed my whole life to make that possible. So I didn't like the way my life was organized, and found almost no challenges outside the religion. This made me hate the work. And the more doubts I got, the more I hated it. Since the pressure from the congregation is that a pioneer should be so damn happy about it, I gradually stopped going. Until that point where I never went.
Last Edit: Aug 14, 2016 4:10:47 GMT -7 by Rusholme
I only auxiliaried once in my whole life. Also hated it, but I've always hated anything to do with the door knocking routine. I tried to cram it in on top of working full time, so I spent a lot of time doing calls by myself after work or before meetings. Was at a time when I was 'reaching' out. Definitely helped to get me promoted, which goes to show how easy it is to work the system. I think what I hated the most was the fact that I hated it. It was supposed to be this amazing experience which would make me love the service, but it didn't. I felt like something was wrong with me the whole time because I wasn't having this transformative experience. Of course it wasn't that the JW's were wrong, it was that there was something wrong with me. Guess I just didn't pray hard enough about it ;).
"He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how." - Friedrich Nietzsche "Live as if you were living already for the second time as if you had acted the first time as wrongly as you are about to act now!" - Viktor Frankl
I started regular pioneering 6 or 7 years ago, and I'm still doing it (okay, so I cheat a little with my reports. okay, I cheat A LOT.) I've hated every second of it, except for chatting in the car with my friends and going on break. But then, I hated going out in service even when I was a kid and only went out 2 hours a week. Overall, I suppose that pioneering was probably a smart decision, because my parents agreed to pay my expenses while I pioneered, so I've been able to save up enough to make a clean break and not carry any debt. And, uh, it got me out in the fresh air? Healthful walks? Practice pitching bullshit to total strangers?
Post by Thehotone4u2 on Aug 27, 2016 14:07:36 GMT -7
I pioneered off and on just because it was on my bucket list! This makes me wonder if there was something seriously wrong with me!
I apologize for that now! But, a point in mitigation here is that I spend a reciprocal amount of time on making sure people know the truth! All the people I brought into the troof are now NOT in the troof. It's amazing to me that it takes something like 6,500 hours of field service to make one baptized pub, including the children of pubs! They DF one out of a hundred every year. I don't know how many just leave! We'll call it one as well for the sake of argument. That means that it takes 11 hours of field service per month, per pub, to make the attrition even! If you add in the one child of a pub that gets baptized each year, it becomes obvious that they're chasing off their membership!
Another consideration in all of this is the contribution rate. People tend to give to causes they believe in. As soon as someone barks at a contributor, you can forget getting any money from him from then on! Then consider the fact that no college educated rich person is a pub. Even efforts by the society to stem the reduction in contributions, like holding each household to a promise to pay up, isn't going to work. What are they going to do about that? DF someone for not contributing? Brand them a liar? It makes me also wonder how many pubs would just as soon leave forever and quit attending the stupid meetings, but can't because they have family in?
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